Posts by Bill Covert

The Zogg Fire is not out but has the possibility to connect to the August Complex and has the possibility to become a record breaker acreage wise. My wording on the post was a little misleading. The amazing part was the power of the fire column in the Manzanita and how hard the government attacked it. Realize that is all prefaced by the fire tornado of 2017.

what causes Northern California fires; climate change, hotter temps allow bark beetles to multiply, which kills trees, that is spreading.

The spotted owl fiasco, they thought logging disturbed the nesting so they shut down logging because the spotted owl was endangered. Since then they learned it is the Barred Owl [who is not endangered] kills spotted owls.

They deemed cattle grazing is bad for habitat.

environmentalist's use the courts to block logging.

All these things and others produce dead trees, brush, and forest floors to be clogged with massive amounts of fuel.

I am not a big Trump fan but in this one area his policies are probably the best. He attacks Governor Newsome for not managing the fire situation properly but then again it is Federal lands that are in the worst shape.

In short land management is administered by FUBAR, with SNAFU as under secretary.

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Zoog Mine Fire

by Bill Covert in

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the zoog fire is burning just outside of redding ca., 0% containment, 3 dead.

sounded like ww2 with air tanker traffic going over the house yesterday.

quite amazing the size of aircraft used; large jets, military air lift transport plus the prop jobs of cal fire.

Bill Covert

Yes, and they come to my part of California. I get to go to fire camps 2 or 3 times a year to work on equipment, in the 2008 lightning strikes I did a week in the Cal Fire shop. When you get to work in that environment you realize these are a special group of people.

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Zoog Mine Fire

by Bill Covert in

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the zoog fire is burning just outside of redding ca., 0% containment, 3 dead.

sounded like ww2 with air tanker traffic going over the house yesterday.

quite amazing the size of aircraft used; large jets, military air lift transport plus the prop jobs of cal fire.

Bill Covert

No the fire is not out, it has a possibility to merge with the August Fire complex. A little explanation due. There was a copper smelter in the Redding area, it was shut down after it usefulness toward WW1. The emissions killed all vegetation going south with the wind almost to Sacramento affecting the orchards. What grew in its place was the Manzanita [Spanish "little Apple] bush. A very resinous thick branched bush that burns very hot and intense. The 2017 Carr Fire became famous for its fire tornado, to where newspapers refer to it, as was the case earlier this summer with a LA fire. Most famous fire tornado was the bombing of Dresden in WW2.

To see a fire in concentrated Manzanita growth is to see a monster. The cloud produced is intensely hot, ugly, creates it own weather system which in turn creates a fire tornado. The USFS Fire Support Base where the air tankers load with fire retardant is 2 miles from my house. So i get to see air traffic to the fires. In 2017 the Carr Fire jumped the Sacramento River, took out a Redding neighborhood. So Tuesday there was a repeat of the fire headed to Redding through the Manzanita, the cloud was very ugly and intense. Yesterday that cloud was gone, amazing! The government bombed the hell out of that section of the fire. They could not allow another Carr Fire or Camp Fire[2018 wiped out the town Paradise] happen again.

I guess this is one of those posts to where a person would of had gone though the experience to appreciate just how powerful a response the government applied. One of those things where the government truly succeeded in its mission.

Actually I went to one of the August Fire command centers in the town of Hayfork last night to work on a fire engine from Arizona. I got home at midnight. Those camps are amazing. Those fire crews take a person back to a time when society wasn't obese.

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Zoog Mine Fire

by Bill Covert in

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the zoog fire is burning just outside of redding ca., 0% containment, 3 dead.

sounded like ww2 with air tanker traffic going over the house yesterday.

quite amazing the size of aircraft used; large jets, military air lift transport plus the prop jobs of cal fire.

Bill Covert

Fire up date. it is 1pm. There is some blue sky, the sky is so silent it is deafening. They bombed the hell out of that fire yesterday. I have never seen anything like it. A conflagration so big knocked down in one day, Amazing! I seen the newspaper stories as to what the government was doing in response to the deadly fires in recent years but to of witnessed the actual government function in such a dramatic results is truly amazing!

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Zoog Mine Fire

by Bill Covert in

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the zoog fire is burning just outside of redding ca., 0% containment, 3 dead.

sounded like ww2 with air tanker traffic going over the house yesterday.

quite amazing the size of aircraft used; large jets, military air lift transport plus the prop jobs of cal fire.

Bill Covert

The Zoog Fire is burning just outside of Redding Ca., 0% containment, 3 dead. Sounded like WW2 with air tanker traffic going over the house yesterday. Quite amazing the size of aircraft used; large jets, military air lift transport plus the prop jobs of Cal Fire. They are worried that the fire could jump Clear Creek and get into the west side of Redding. The Carr Fire jumped the Sacramento River in 2017, killed 7. One was a fireman friend of my son when he was in fire dept.

The first tanker of the day just flew over as I am writing.

Old memory, years ago there was the Happy Valley Fire, it took out several Witness's homes. I took the proceeds from a all night job for a logger [whom he himself was burned out a couple years before] sent a thousand dollars to the relief fund [probably the largest donation they got] I didn't even get a thank you as being a so called apostate.

Anyway, in my letter writing I have primed the local church 'grape vine' with the info related here that the Nov. Wt. is being pro active in telling the rank and file not to bitch and complain if their Kingdom Hall's are sold to free up funds for building new hall's in other parts of the world. Even though my campaign is 30 years old I realize that the engine that is going to bring down the church is the molestation issue. I truly believe that when the courthouses are opened and Zalkin's law suite's are filed and hit the media then the full impact of what the church is doing in the Nov. Wt. will hit with the liquidation of Kingdom Hall's will have the power to shatter closed minds.

If I was a creative writer I could spin an "apocliptic" story of; pestilence, fire and anarchy for the year 2020.

The church taught the in 1919 the "walls of Babylon the Great came down and God's people were freed from mental bondage". I would like to make the prediction that history will repeat itself, that in 2021 the chicken wire will fall from around the turkey pen and the mental bondage to Stephen Lett &co. will fall like 'scales will fall from their eyes' Acts 9:18 and they will start to see that that Rutherford was right, "religion is a snare and a racket"!

So anyway a lot going in the minds of the church members; Stephen Lett's last day of the last days, the actual last moment of the last day, etc, etc... The virus lock down. Civil unrest. The fire. So I think for the first time when the Zalkin molestation suites hit the media that will be the engine that will bring down the mind control over the turkey pen.

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jehober "always'" protects his 'loyal servants'?

by eyeuse2badub in

last week i watched the docuseries on prime video called “the last narc”.

it was mainly about the notorious mexican guadalajara drug cartel during the 70’s and 80’s and a united states dea agent, kiki camerena, who was kidnapped, tortured, and murdered in guadalajara, mexico in 1984. this is a very well-known and haunting event here in the usa.. however, there was also about a 7-8 minute segment during the docuseries that graphically detailed the kidnapping, rape, and murder of 4 jehovah’s witnesses that also took place just days before kiki camerena was taken.

the jw’s were 2 married couples, us citizens, dennis and rose carlson, ben and pat mascarenas.

Bill Covert

Dennis and Rose were my neighbors. I was the first person to be notified by sheriff's office as they went to last known address when notified by US State Dept..

There was a piece in local paper at the outset of the "El Chapo trial" that indicated that the rapes and murders of Rose, Pat and Dennis and Ben could be part of the trial, in that El Chapo did the raping and killing. But that was never brought up.

If you are in a situation where you need to hide money place it in your box of Kotex. That is where Dennis's dad found it even though the place had been searched by police several times. I believe the dad got beaten by the chief of police. Later the chief of police was in the news for his connection with the drug lord.

My ex is good friends with Dennis's brother family. I have been completely shut out of any info from inside the church wall of silence so been cut off from interactions. But their lives are not in great shape.

1984 was a major year for me as it was the first occasion I saw in print that the church was back peddling on Matt.24:34 when they said "we would be preaching to the sons and daughter of those sighing and groaning in Ezk. 9:4". It was also the start of the "obedience to the organization mantra", which brought to reality Judge Rutherford's religion being a "snare" in that the judicial process was hijacked from being at protectorate of the flock to being an instrument to control dissent. That was also the start of Rutherford's religion being a "racket" as the church conspired to violate Federal Banking laws in an effort to create cash flow by means of interest paying building loans for "two day Kingdom Halls". But that is just part of my soap box on this site as to the Sept. 1 1987 Wt article "A Time to Speak When?" uniquely being the only church policy fabricated from a deception.

So 1984, Dennis, Rose, Ben and Pat lives under go sheer horror and the church starts its journey down the Splain explanation of the "master delaying" of Matt.24:34 . Gives real meaning to the term "wicked and evil slave" Matt.24: 48.

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Belgium: Jehovah's Witnesses will be tried for hate crimes on February 16.

by yalbmert99 in

belgium: jehovah's witnesses will be tried for hate crimes on february 16.. https://www.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20200915_93224449.

Bill Covert

In 2013 the world wide convention, a main talk entitled "Human Apostates" was identified as hate speech. Posted on this site 7-28-2013 under heading "WTS in trouble in Denmark" head of the "Documentation and Advisory Centre on Racial Discrimination" [DRC] Niels-Erik Hansen put in newspaper that such attacks on 'apostate' was in violation of article 266b of the Danish Criminal Code. He stated that article was specifically instituted because of how Hitler treated Jews in the 1930's. Evidently it stung the church as they turned down their rhetoric.

The point being, evidently human rights issues are taken more serious in Europe due to the abuses of the Nazis. So perhaps we may want to pay more than usual attention as to the outcome of this court case.

I well remember that talk as I was the "apostate" they specifically refed to who instituted a new tactic "writing letters to the homes of publishers". It works good as a letter to the homes plugs into the internal grape vine. There one can mind fuck the elders. It pisses off the Service Dept. as they have to figure out how to handle; a elder masturbating on nude beach, a elder who did dirt to a single black mom by collecting $6,000 of city relocation money as his rental was taken over for a park, and as he managed the rentals he did improvements on the sisters rental, but when moving day happened he kicked out the sister and moved in himself. The third was the best as the Service Dept. had to handle the P.O. who kept concealed his step son elder had a gun shoved down his throat in Mexico because he was trying to cheat his business partner a younger Mexican out of his half of their business in Mexico, he came back with a severe case of post traumatic stress syndrome. And the Service Dept. had to do it in such a way as to conceal that a "apostate" was pulling their strings.

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William Miller

by lepavoux in

" this is the man who made it all happen" type this in.. this is how the watchtower organization began!

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Bill Covert

Was it not on this site that there was a Canadian historian who took the position that Russel was influenced more from the "Plymouth Brethren" than Miller? Not a major point but it was an interesting presentation he made.

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Bewildering Background revealing who stopped slavery in the world

by Terry in

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bewildering background.

even among the greatest religious thinkers and moral philosophers of civilizations around the world for 1000’s of years slavery was not considered a moral issue.. only one civilization developed a “moral revulsion” against it very late in its history:western civilization.. abraham lincoln said:if slavery is not considered wrong; nothing can be considered as wrong.. but why did not even the leading moralists among other nations and civilizations reject slavery at all?.

there is no evidence that slavery came under attack in any other part of the world before the 18th century.

Bill Covert

Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, Justice Clarence Thomas, all three expound on the exact same theme as to the dismal state of race relations to day, the liberal "Great Society" of Lynden Johnson. They take the position that the civil rights legislation was much needed but they all three take the position that the welfare system introduced in the "Great Society" part was the bed rock for todays inability for young blacks to lead productive lives [not much different for young whites].

Sowell and Williams both said there is only one other POTUS they refused besides Trump to watch on TV which was Obama.

PBS had a special on Justice Thomas and I got to YouTubing Sowell [i enjoyed his column several years ago in local paper] and Williams. I learned a lot.

Probably old hat for this site but for any not familure of the history of the hymn "Amazing Grace" it is a interesting read.

Good post.